(02-10-2020, 08:29 PM)subtropicus Wrote:(02-10-2020, 08:11 AM)Kharon Wrote: “P2 OBS: Passing strange? This web link provided by Hitch: https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-cer...g-provider no longer takes you to the content to which he refers? Apparently the content has been archived after only 2 days??
Well; if P2 can't find it - then I've no hope. So, who put up the link? Who demanded the link be ‘archived’ to a place beyond mortal reach? Aye, passing strange are the ways of Sleepy Hollow.
“It's an interesting document. Give it a read”. Love to mate – can you publish it – if you copied the thing – otherwise, ‘tis lost forever.
Toot – toot.
Google's cache is your friend!
There's a link to a PDF there too.
https://www.casa.gov.au/sites/default/fi...ovider.pdf
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s...clnk&gl=au
Cheers!
Glad to see it wasn't totally vaporised...
- Thanks heaps for that subtropo and welcome... 
Changing a training provider
Students sometimes may have a need to change their training provider. There are many reasons for this—for example, changing location. The regulations provide for this possibility.
Download a print-friendly version of the Changing a training provider information sheet (PDF 388.55 KB).
Who should read this information?
- Flight training organisations
- Pilots
Can a student commence flight training with a training operator and transfer to another operator to complete their training?
Yes, although it depends on several factors.
- Transfer of training records - Parts 141 and 142 have regulations that require the first operator to provide copies of student training records to the second operator – refer to 141.280 and 142.360. This is important as the second operator must determine what training has been completed and develop a plan for the remaining training that needs to be completed. An assessment flight or flights are also commonly undertaken.
- Qualifying with reduced aeronautical experience – if an applicant for a licence plans to qualify with reduced aeronautical experience—for example a CPL(A) with 150 hours versus 200 hours—they need to complete the full integrated training course. This means a student can only qualify for a reduced hour licence if they have completed a full integrated course of training and have the minimum aeronautical experience at the time they apply. For the CPL(A), that is 150 hours.
- Registered and recognised aircraft – if you are applying for a licence after completing an integrated training course, you must have logged the minimum flight times, specified in the regulations, in registered or recognised aircraft of the same category. For example, to obtain a CPL(A), you must have at least 140 hours of flight time in registered or recognised aeroplanes.
Registered aircraft have a VH registration and recognised aircraft are either aircraft that are on the register of an ICAO Contracting State or a State aircraft. Recreational Aviation Australia (RAAus) aircraft are not VH registered aircraft.
- Aircraft requirements for non-integrated training courses – the requirements for flight time to be conducted in registered or recognised aeroplanes do not apply to the aeronautical experience requirements for non-integrated training courses.
- Most Part 142 training operators that conduct private pilot licence (PPL) and commercial pilot licence (CPL) integrated training also hold a Part 141 certificate to conduct PPL and CPL non-integrated training.
Examples of where a student can change training providers
If a student plans to change their training provider, in the first instance, check your flight training provider and the proposed provider and see what certificates they hold and what flight training they are authorised to conduct.
Further information on CASA approved flight training operators can be found on the flight training webpage. Details outline whether the operators have a Part 141 or Part 142 certificate or both.
Example 1:
Claire commenced an integrated CPL(A) training course at Brightline Training (Part 142 operator) in Adelaide. Halfway through her course, she moved to Tamworth and chose High Flying (Part 142 operator) to complete her training. Brightline Training provides a copy of Claire’s training records to High Flying who completes an assessment and creates a training plan for her to complete her integrated training course. All the training Claire has completed at the first school can be transferred to the second school. On completion of the training with High Flying, Claire can qualify for her CPL(A) with a minimum of 150 hours of aeronautical experience.
Patrick commenced an integrated PPL(H) training course at Finesse Air (Part 142) in Cairns. He decides to change training providers to Cracker Jack Aviation (Part 141)—also in Cairns—for his navigation training and to complete his PPL with them. Finesse Air provides a copy of Patrick’s training records to Cracker Jack Aviation who completes an assessment and creates a training plan for Patrick to finish his training. Patrick can only qualify for his PPL(H) if he has 40 hours of aeronautical experience. If he completed his training with Finesse Air, he could have gained his licence with 35 hours.
Example 2:
Louise commenced a non-integrated CPL(A) training course at Brock Aero (Part 141) in Melbourne. On gaining her PPL, Louise decides to change training provider and chooses to complete her training with XtraAir. This operator has a Part 142 certificate for integrated training and a part 141 certificate for non-integrated CPL(A) training. Brock Aero is not required to provide XtraAir with a copy of Louise’s training records, although they may choose to do so. She could enrol in XtraAir’s integrated training course, although she would only be able to qualify for her CPL(A) if she has 200 hours of aeronautical experience when she applies for her licence. It is up to XtraAir to plan her course of training.
Example 3:
Alex completed flight training with Assimilation Training and gained a Recreational Pilot Certificate (RPL) from RAAus. After logging 60 hours of flying RAAus aeroplanes, Alex decides to gain his CPL(A) and commences training with Assimilation Training which also holds a Part 141 certificate for CPL(A) flight training. Alex moves to Melbourne and chooses to complete their CPL(A) training with XtraAir. The training Alex needs to complete, and the experience requirements would be the same as the requirements Louise needs to meet. However, the RAAus experience can be used to meet the 200 hours of aeronautical experience required for the CPL(A).
What financial assistance is available to students?
Some flight training providers have partnerships with educational institutions to provide components of their courses. In some cases, financial assistance such as VET Student Loans are available where flight training is combined with an approved diploma or higher vocational education and training course. In some cases, the aeronautical knowledge requirements for the pilot licence are delivered by the education institution who provide the theory training for the licence examinations.
Completion of the diploma or higher qualification generally involves completing the CASR Part 61 licence requirement plus additional course material. However, completing the additional VET training is separate from qualifying for a licence granted by CASA.
Note: CASA is not responsible for VET qualification or any financial arrangements.
If you have received financial assistance for your training course, it is important that you check any relevant requirements before you change your course of study or flight training organisation.
For more information, visit:
Last modified: 6 February 2020
Although I am still curious to how it is possible for such a helpful webpage, offering assurance to concerned pilot trainees, could possibly be archived after barely a day of exposure?
I am also curious to why this potentially important information for those students affected by one or more of the example scenarios was not promoted/disseminated across all CASA Briefing media &/or social media platforms??
Just surmising but perhaps this information was not properly sanctioned/approved for general industry consumption; and/or there is something potentially libelous in the contents of the document/webpage?
MTF...P2
