12-03-2019, 09:00 AM
Well when I asked the Australian Defence Department for the surface search photo's from the search area of 18th-27th March they chose to falsify the release schedule to make it seem like they had complied. They did not release what I asked for, they released hundreds of photo's from up north, which were useless for what I needed them for, I already knew where the wreckage site was, I wanted to know if an analysis of those photo's especially the ones from the 24th March would have revealed what was submerged in a small part of that area, and I wanted an explanation for the seemingly strange behavior of the wreckage and debris. I wanted to see what else was in the area, and might have been more visible on the surface in an actual photo.
When the AMSA sightings report was released under FOI, all the USN P8 sightings in the search area were redacted, apparently just a description, time and location of their sightings would cause damage to the international relations of the Commonwealth. Well from one of the few useful things I got with my FOI request for the southern surface search images, the P8 had 9 sightings just east of my area on March 21st, they were the reason the search area was expanded further east. There were a lot of sightings completely redacted from the AMSA report.
You could get a hint of how much was seen from the ATSB final report, they listed each group of sightings as just one sighting, so the P8 sightings from March 21st, if they even got a mention would have been listed as one sighting. The March 24th RAAF sightings all in the same area would have made 2 sightings in the final report, since 2 separate aircraft made those 8 sightings, or did they maybe bunch them all together as 1 sighting? There would have been a lot more sightings but at least 2 people had to see each object and be able to describe it, how many objects were only seen by one person? There was a lot of stuff in that area, nearly all of it submerged. We have description of 2 other objects (one from the pilot and one from the working screen) and the locaction of one of them that were not even included in that lot.
When I asked the ATSB, WA police and the Federal police for the photo's they all had of the metal panel that washed up near Augusta in April 2014, there was outright collusion, conspiracy and straight out lying to prevent them being released under FOI. For something they had all dismissed as being from MH370 it was very strange the trouble they went to to prevent anyone else from identify that panel. It was not from a boat or caravan as some had attempted to claim, all those materials were used on MH370, I demonstrated that to the ATSB when I first questioned their decision it was not from MH370. It would have been from MH370, but without the photo's the police took of the panel there was no chance of proving it, the photo's the person who found it released only showed the back of the panel, not the remains of the front. You would have to see the front of the central grey strip to have any chance of working out where it came from.
ATSB would not include that Augusta piece in their final report, probably for fear of giving those who objected to the dismissal something they could use. They showed the panel that washed up at Queenscliff, a mistake they will yet rue, that one was even easier to identify, it is part of a galley panel, very distinctive features it had. Well no investigator is going to rock the 7th arc boat to reveal the whole underwater search has been a waste of time. They are not interested in the truth, it would have been simple to check the galley panels and work out which one matched. They are all absolutely confident their precious 7th arc is in the right place, and that Boeing would be able to recognize a bit of B777...
The wreckage site was practically in plain site, there were hundreds of submerged bits and chunks of intact wreckage seen in the sat images in the area of the RAAF sightings of March 24th, some fairly large and many made up of a lot of parts all still intact and joined together. There were hundreds of objects in an even smaller area just north of there. That same area a bit further north had the only sound event that was just minutes after the last ping (Dr Kadri's research), area around that lot had dozens of sightings during the surface search of objects likely to be debris, yet they rush off up north to search where nothing was ever seen or heard. Well they heard those pings that were not from the black boxes, but that was a bit later, and all too convenient a distraction.
The primary radar they say is MH370, is not compatible with the southern wreckage site, MH370 went for no jaunt up the Malacca Strait, I believe they did track an aircraft that flew very close to MH370, close enough to observe what happened, just like there was a military aircraft near MH17, probably just observing what happened according to some of the audio they released trying to blame someone else for what happened.
Speculation, but in my opinion it was deliberate premeditated murder of the people on both MH17 and MH370, and two deliberate coverups. They have at least covered up evidence in the MH370 investigation that would have told them exactly where MH370 ended up, which is no where near that 7th arc. Someone is hiding a lot more information about what happened to cripple MH370. Probably if MH370 had fallen where expected they would have blamed North Korea for shooting it down with some missile. The media campaign stirring up fear and anger against North Korea went strangely quiet for a while after MH370 was lost. I wonder these days just how much of our news is fabricated and how much is real. And unusual for such a disappearance, there were hardly any stories blaming a missile for what happened to MH370. But someone had that fake distress call all ready to go, another indication it was premeditated and not some accident. Once it was obvious MH370 did not crash where ATC lost her, it would not be that hard for such people to fake the mobile tower connection in an attempt to frame the Captain for it.
P2 - excellent well constructed post Aussie 500 and your hypothesis/speculation is none too shabby either. Thank you and the choccy frog is in the mail...
When the AMSA sightings report was released under FOI, all the USN P8 sightings in the search area were redacted, apparently just a description, time and location of their sightings would cause damage to the international relations of the Commonwealth. Well from one of the few useful things I got with my FOI request for the southern surface search images, the P8 had 9 sightings just east of my area on March 21st, they were the reason the search area was expanded further east. There were a lot of sightings completely redacted from the AMSA report.
You could get a hint of how much was seen from the ATSB final report, they listed each group of sightings as just one sighting, so the P8 sightings from March 21st, if they even got a mention would have been listed as one sighting. The March 24th RAAF sightings all in the same area would have made 2 sightings in the final report, since 2 separate aircraft made those 8 sightings, or did they maybe bunch them all together as 1 sighting? There would have been a lot more sightings but at least 2 people had to see each object and be able to describe it, how many objects were only seen by one person? There was a lot of stuff in that area, nearly all of it submerged. We have description of 2 other objects (one from the pilot and one from the working screen) and the locaction of one of them that were not even included in that lot.
When I asked the ATSB, WA police and the Federal police for the photo's they all had of the metal panel that washed up near Augusta in April 2014, there was outright collusion, conspiracy and straight out lying to prevent them being released under FOI. For something they had all dismissed as being from MH370 it was very strange the trouble they went to to prevent anyone else from identify that panel. It was not from a boat or caravan as some had attempted to claim, all those materials were used on MH370, I demonstrated that to the ATSB when I first questioned their decision it was not from MH370. It would have been from MH370, but without the photo's the police took of the panel there was no chance of proving it, the photo's the person who found it released only showed the back of the panel, not the remains of the front. You would have to see the front of the central grey strip to have any chance of working out where it came from.
ATSB would not include that Augusta piece in their final report, probably for fear of giving those who objected to the dismissal something they could use. They showed the panel that washed up at Queenscliff, a mistake they will yet rue, that one was even easier to identify, it is part of a galley panel, very distinctive features it had. Well no investigator is going to rock the 7th arc boat to reveal the whole underwater search has been a waste of time. They are not interested in the truth, it would have been simple to check the galley panels and work out which one matched. They are all absolutely confident their precious 7th arc is in the right place, and that Boeing would be able to recognize a bit of B777...
The wreckage site was practically in plain site, there were hundreds of submerged bits and chunks of intact wreckage seen in the sat images in the area of the RAAF sightings of March 24th, some fairly large and many made up of a lot of parts all still intact and joined together. There were hundreds of objects in an even smaller area just north of there. That same area a bit further north had the only sound event that was just minutes after the last ping (Dr Kadri's research), area around that lot had dozens of sightings during the surface search of objects likely to be debris, yet they rush off up north to search where nothing was ever seen or heard. Well they heard those pings that were not from the black boxes, but that was a bit later, and all too convenient a distraction.
The primary radar they say is MH370, is not compatible with the southern wreckage site, MH370 went for no jaunt up the Malacca Strait, I believe they did track an aircraft that flew very close to MH370, close enough to observe what happened, just like there was a military aircraft near MH17, probably just observing what happened according to some of the audio they released trying to blame someone else for what happened.
Speculation, but in my opinion it was deliberate premeditated murder of the people on both MH17 and MH370, and two deliberate coverups. They have at least covered up evidence in the MH370 investigation that would have told them exactly where MH370 ended up, which is no where near that 7th arc. Someone is hiding a lot more information about what happened to cripple MH370. Probably if MH370 had fallen where expected they would have blamed North Korea for shooting it down with some missile. The media campaign stirring up fear and anger against North Korea went strangely quiet for a while after MH370 was lost. I wonder these days just how much of our news is fabricated and how much is real. And unusual for such a disappearance, there were hardly any stories blaming a missile for what happened to MH370. But someone had that fake distress call all ready to go, another indication it was premeditated and not some accident. Once it was obvious MH370 did not crash where ATC lost her, it would not be that hard for such people to fake the mobile tower connection in an attempt to frame the Captain for it.
P2 - excellent well constructed post Aussie 500 and your hypothesis/speculation is none too shabby either. Thank you and the choccy frog is in the mail...