Curtis - "But i am not sure if we are right to condemn solely Malaysia for the mess."
No, I would agree it seems unlikely that the MYG is solely responsible, but rather it may be they are playing their part as directed, albeit in a bumbling and very 'Malaysian' way.
There was a suggestion that all was not right and above board when the MYG 'sealed' the ATC recordings, CCTV and radar data - just why would that be necessary - to prevent anyone getting their hands on a copy? Does even the ATSB (and others involved) have the raw radar data? They could have simply refused to release anything that may have impeded or compromised the criminal investigation, why go to the extreme of classifying it? The USA has apparently done the same with all MH370 related data it holds. Very odd.
It would seem this is not a 'normal' situation, but one which, although known about, cannot be made public for some reason. I'm reminded of one of Hishy's answers to journalists at one of the televised daily press conferences shortly after the event - it went something like: "Sometimes some people do terrible things that the public must never be told about". And he wasn't referring to the pilots, they weren't being blamed by the MYG - quite the opposite. Very odd as well.
So has something happened that needs to be covered up; and since it happened to/in one of their aircraft (and they're in charge of the investigation) the Malaysians have to play their part, and the aircraft isn't intended to be found since it would provide unwelcome evidence. Simple as that?
Perhaps something along the lines of Itavia flight 870 back in 1980?:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/j...atch.italy
"The investigating magistrate said he believed there had been a plot to shoot down a plane carrying Libya's Colonel Muammar Gadafy and that the commercial airliner had been unwittingly caught up in the "war-like scenario". He said the passenger jet had either been brought down by a missile or had plunged into the sea after swerving to avoid a mid-air collision with one of the jetfighters.
In his 5,488 page report, Mr Priore said he could not say for sure who had caused the deaths of the 81 people on board but he said that his investigation and previous investigations into the tragedy had been deliberately obstructed by the Italian military and members of the secret service, who had complied with requests from NATO to cover up the tragedy.
"Four Italian air force generals and five other people were indicted, charged with high treason and perjury. They denied all the charges and although the case went ahead, it collapsed because of time restraints and insufficient evidence."
P7 - Nicely into a nutshell Fori; good questions all. Have a Choc Frog.
No, I would agree it seems unlikely that the MYG is solely responsible, but rather it may be they are playing their part as directed, albeit in a bumbling and very 'Malaysian' way.
There was a suggestion that all was not right and above board when the MYG 'sealed' the ATC recordings, CCTV and radar data - just why would that be necessary - to prevent anyone getting their hands on a copy? Does even the ATSB (and others involved) have the raw radar data? They could have simply refused to release anything that may have impeded or compromised the criminal investigation, why go to the extreme of classifying it? The USA has apparently done the same with all MH370 related data it holds. Very odd.
It would seem this is not a 'normal' situation, but one which, although known about, cannot be made public for some reason. I'm reminded of one of Hishy's answers to journalists at one of the televised daily press conferences shortly after the event - it went something like: "Sometimes some people do terrible things that the public must never be told about". And he wasn't referring to the pilots, they weren't being blamed by the MYG - quite the opposite. Very odd as well.
So has something happened that needs to be covered up; and since it happened to/in one of their aircraft (and they're in charge of the investigation) the Malaysians have to play their part, and the aircraft isn't intended to be found since it would provide unwelcome evidence. Simple as that?
Perhaps something along the lines of Itavia flight 870 back in 1980?:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/j...atch.italy
"The investigating magistrate said he believed there had been a plot to shoot down a plane carrying Libya's Colonel Muammar Gadafy and that the commercial airliner had been unwittingly caught up in the "war-like scenario". He said the passenger jet had either been brought down by a missile or had plunged into the sea after swerving to avoid a mid-air collision with one of the jetfighters.
In his 5,488 page report, Mr Priore said he could not say for sure who had caused the deaths of the 81 people on board but he said that his investigation and previous investigations into the tragedy had been deliberately obstructed by the Italian military and members of the secret service, who had complied with requests from NATO to cover up the tragedy.
"Four Italian air force generals and five other people were indicted, charged with high treason and perjury. They denied all the charges and although the case went ahead, it collapsed because of time restraints and insufficient evidence."
P7 - Nicely into a nutshell Fori; good questions all. Have a Choc Frog.