05-28-2015, 02:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2015, 03:09 PM by Kharon.
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Another Choc Frog post from Aussie 500; trapped in the PM system, now on the board....... 
aussie500 Wrote:
Well the roaring forties might swirl a round a lot, have a sink hole under the Great Australian Bight where things can get lost, but eventually they go east. Unlike our MH370 search.
I did a rough map of where all the ships had been, based on the actual images we got of the surface search, I never had access to the AIS data, but had been curious about something for a while and eventually got tired of waiting for Mike Chillet to look closer at the original search. It seems there was an error in Mikes data or someone had removed part of the info for HMAS Success, her March 25th stopover further south was missing.
https://twitter.com/aussie500/status/595057876227358721
https://twitter.com/MikeChillit/status/588897717142827008
AMSA themselves did a timeline of their SAR efforts.
http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/mh370-timeline/
Nothing the ATSB or JACC have done since they took over have been of any use. They have some useful map data and made a few interesting discoveries, but have continually searched in the wrong locations. I do not believe they will go back to that search area they abandoned. They had plenty of incentive to return there, if they had their way I believe they were intending to keep moving the search north till they could dump it in Indonesia's lap. DigitalGlobe already had the images done for the next move further north when Inmarsat looked at the sat phone data and worked out MH370 had already been going south.
So the Aussies could hardly ignore, that MH370 would have gotten further south than their quickly whipped up calculations were showing. Something else sent the search astray before the Aussies got it anyway, and not just the primary radar and the Malaysians constant misinformation and attempts to direct the search in the wrong direction. They assumed the auto pilot was on, Malaysia lead them to believe that it or someone else was in control of the plane. If they were wrong, and MH370 attempted to turn back and just kept going in an almost straight line from IGARI, all these calculations everyone is arguing over are useless.
Why would Malaysia have insisted on the human intervention angle in the first place?
Many are already suspicious of their primary radar info it took so long to come up with, their early information about moves like a fighter jet and flying low to avoid radar have already been tossed out. Although something near MH370 when it had its mishap could have been doing that. No mention in the factual report about any attempts to connect with a mobile phone tower in Penang.
The ATSB is not going to rock the boat, certainly not going to say MH370 flew though Indonesian controlled air space. Or that any of them have been deliberately misleading
>> >> >> THEN << <<< <<<
I am no plane expert, but I would say she drifted east, like everything else except the search. I would think the IG team will be the first to raise the question of what went wrong with the calculations, when this 7th arc thing fails to find anything.Tail winds and no autopilot will be near the top of the list.
And on the FMC, if anyone had programmed anything extra into it, would the Inmarsat data not have shown flight information? When the plane logged back on, there was no flight data sent.
aussie500 Wrote:
Well the roaring forties might swirl a round a lot, have a sink hole under the Great Australian Bight where things can get lost, but eventually they go east. Unlike our MH370 search.
I did a rough map of where all the ships had been, based on the actual images we got of the surface search, I never had access to the AIS data, but had been curious about something for a while and eventually got tired of waiting for Mike Chillet to look closer at the original search. It seems there was an error in Mikes data or someone had removed part of the info for HMAS Success, her March 25th stopover further south was missing.
https://twitter.com/aussie500/status/595057876227358721
https://twitter.com/MikeChillit/status/588897717142827008
AMSA themselves did a timeline of their SAR efforts.
http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/mh370-timeline/
Nothing the ATSB or JACC have done since they took over have been of any use. They have some useful map data and made a few interesting discoveries, but have continually searched in the wrong locations. I do not believe they will go back to that search area they abandoned. They had plenty of incentive to return there, if they had their way I believe they were intending to keep moving the search north till they could dump it in Indonesia's lap. DigitalGlobe already had the images done for the next move further north when Inmarsat looked at the sat phone data and worked out MH370 had already been going south.
So the Aussies could hardly ignore, that MH370 would have gotten further south than their quickly whipped up calculations were showing. Something else sent the search astray before the Aussies got it anyway, and not just the primary radar and the Malaysians constant misinformation and attempts to direct the search in the wrong direction. They assumed the auto pilot was on, Malaysia lead them to believe that it or someone else was in control of the plane. If they were wrong, and MH370 attempted to turn back and just kept going in an almost straight line from IGARI, all these calculations everyone is arguing over are useless.
Why would Malaysia have insisted on the human intervention angle in the first place?
Many are already suspicious of their primary radar info it took so long to come up with, their early information about moves like a fighter jet and flying low to avoid radar have already been tossed out. Although something near MH370 when it had its mishap could have been doing that. No mention in the factual report about any attempts to connect with a mobile phone tower in Penang.
The ATSB is not going to rock the boat, certainly not going to say MH370 flew though Indonesian controlled air space. Or that any of them have been deliberately misleading
>> >> >> THEN << <<< <<<
I am no plane expert, but I would say she drifted east, like everything else except the search. I would think the IG team will be the first to raise the question of what went wrong with the calculations, when this 7th arc thing fails to find anything.Tail winds and no autopilot will be near the top of the list.
And on the FMC, if anyone had programmed anything extra into it, would the Inmarsat data not have shown flight information? When the plane logged back on, there was no flight data sent.