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Nonsense & waffle!

Well the Hansard is finally out and here are the links:

RRAT Estimates Hansard 27 May 2015

RRAT Estimates Hansard 28 May 2015

The Wednesday sessions did not have much of interest as most of the relevant (aviation) action was deferred to the Thursday AM sessions. However there was this bit from the Heff at the start of the day, which was related to the Public Service Dipshit Stakes  mentioned on the previous page:

Senator STERLE: For those listening out there, we do have indicative times, which we have always tried to work to in this committee. But there are some new rules. I will be doing my best to try and work within those times, bearing in mind that if it does go longer, I know that we can.

CHAIR: Can I indicate, for the purposes of Hansard, the cooperation that this committee has historically had. The rules have changed. I read an entertaining piece, which came from someone in today's proceedings. Someone sitting out the back there or back in the office has got what I call 'the shits' with us. But really, there is a change, and the Senate is working on fixing that, because the time limit is uncontrollable. But in this particular committee we try to do the right thing and we will certainly do our best today. I sincerely thank Senator Sterle and his people and the other members of this committee for their sense of cooperation. We may well go to 11 tonight or we may finish early. But what we would like to do is get through the program so that people who have sat there all day can get to have their say. Just for the purposes of remedy, the person who sent that rather cute note, which I have had pinned in my window for everyone to read for the past six months, I don’t mind if they quietly come to me and have a yarn. I will explain to them the difficulty of the change in the regulations around it. Then we can go off and have a quiet glass of wine, perhaps. Over to you, Senator Sterle.

It is also worth putting on the record the rather uncharacteristic outburst from Senator Sterle towards the end of the day's proceedings...

Senator STERLE:  I want to follow up to Senator Bullock's questions, when he was talking about the regulation or regulating who can be in the cockpit. Mr Skidmore, let us play a little game. Let's try yes and no. I do not want to be rude, but if there is a bit of waffle I am going to be rude. Sorry to be direct at a quarter to 11 at night. Let's see how we go. Have there been any attempts to prescribe this in regulations in recent years: who can come in the cockpit?

Mr Skidmore : No.

Senator STERLE:  None at all?

Mr Skidmore : No.

Senator STERLE: I am going to move on to a completely different line of questioning and it is to do with an operator in Perth who has raised these questions with me and I think they are valid. There are a number of questions. I am going to try and get through as quickly as we can so we can move to Senator Xenophon but without cutting short. My questions will be directed to the multicrew cooperation training course. Can you outline the consultation process followed ahead of introduction of the mandatory MCC training course?

Mr Skidmore : I will ask my executive manager of standards to cover that.

Senator STERLE:  Sure.

Mr Boyd : Your question is about—

Senator STERLE:  Consultation.

Mr Boyd : The particular part you are referring to was part of the licensing regulations.

Senator STERLE:  I am aware of this. Let's get straight to the point, Mr Boyd. What was your consultation?

Mr Boyd : They went through the normal consultation process.

Senator STERLE:  Tell me what the normal consultation process is. Who did you meet with? Who did you talk to? When? How many times?

Mr Boyd : Look, in terms of that—

Senator STERLE:  No, not look. I have asked you some questions, please.

Mr Boyd : I will have to take it on notice for that particular—

Senator STERLE:  You do not know? You cannot tell me. You have just been called up because you are the man and you cannot tell me what the consultation process for—

Mr Skidmore : We have a process that we go through—

Senator STERLE:  I will tell you what we will do.

Mr Skidmore : We can outline the process for you.

Senator STERLE:  No, I will tell you what we will do this late at night, through you, Chair. I am not going to be entertained with this nonsense and waffle. I am going to ask that they come back tomorrow morning and bring back all the information about the MCC—and I will accede to Senator to Xenophon—because this is typical of CASA. If you cannot give me an honest, straightforward answer, come back tomorrow armed with everything that I need.

CHAIR: Order! Thank you very much for your contribution, Senator Sterle, but I am going—

Senator STERLE:  Are they going to come back tomorrow with the all information on the MCC?

Senator CASH:  I think we have established that we require CASA to come back tomorrow.

Senator STERLE:  Thank you very much.

Senator CASH:  But we do not need to be rude to them.

Senator STERLE:  I am not being rude, but at this time of night—you see, Senator Cash, I have taken 10 years of this sort of stuff.

Senator CASH:  That is fine—

Senator STERLE:  And when bureaucrats get called to the table they go, 'Er, ah, um, I don't know.' Don't waste time.

 

Also there was some interesting tabled documents & yet another foot in mouth tabled letter.. ..from the ATSB MH370 search manager Peter Foley:

Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development



Tabled Documents

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1.) Four documents relating to asset recycling. Tabled by Mr Mike Mrdak, Secretary, Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development on 27 May 2015.
(PDF 7274 KB)

2.) Opening statement. Tabled by Mr Mark Skidmore, Director of Aviation Safety, Civil Aviation Safety Authority on 27 May 2015.
(PDF 621 KB)

4.) Document titled 'Response to TSB recommendations'. Tabled by Mr Martin Dolan, Chief Commissioner, Australian Transport Safety Bureau on 28 May 2015.
(PDF 537 KB)

5.) Document titled 'Target Review of Melbourne Land and Hold Short Operations (LAHSO) Safety Assurance'. Tabled by Ms Margaret Staib, Chief Executive Officer, Airservices Australia on 28 May 2015.
(PDF 838KB)

6.) Document titled 'Airservices Response to the Review of Melbourne Land and Hold Operations (LAHSO) Safety Assurance. Tabled by Ms Margaret Staib, Chief Executive Officer, Airservices Australia on 28 May 2015.
(PDF 97KB)

Additional information and clarification of evidence

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1.) Clarification of evidence received 1 June 2015 from Mr Peter Foley, Program Director, Operational Search for MH370, Australian Transport Safety Bureau.
(PDF 91KB)Hansard etc. released

There you go, fill your boots...

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